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What is this guy's strength tier ?
Raditz to 100% Frieza 3 (27.3%)
1 (9.1%)
SSJ Namek Goku Tier To Semi Perfect Cell Tier 0 (0%)
0 (0%)
ASSJ Vegeta Tier to Full power Perfect Cell 0 (0%)
0 (0%)
SSJ2 Adult Gohan Tier to SSJ2 Goku/Majin Vegeta Tier 0 (0%)
1 (9.1%)
Fat Boo Tier to Super Buu Tier 3 (27.3%)
0 (0%)
Other 3 (27.3%)
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How strong is this guy ?
Topic Started: Aug 18 2015, 02:57 PM (3,536 Views)
Notaka
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Just how strong is he ?

He was able to put a better fight than Goku did in his SSJ or SSJ2 form.
He was still no match for Beerus though...
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I'd put him around Buff/Super Boo level, since he did appear to be stronger than Good Boo and Kid Boo, and gave more than a challenge to Beerus compared to Ssj3 Goku. The question is, how did he get this power?
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Wat...I didn't get the impression he was buu saga level at all
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I don't know, he doesn't strike me as very strong. Maybe Monster Zarbon's level.
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aren't you guys overthinking it? This is like saying Mr satan is stronger than let's say Cell because he survived finger to the head from beerus who knocked SSJ3 Goku back with that same finger. Or if you wanna use someone weaker than cell, lets say Zarbon. pretty sure Beerus could just breath and kill him.
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Aug 18 2015, 04:01 PM
aren't you guys overthinking it? This is like saying Mr satan is stronger than let's say Cell because he survived finger to the head from beerus who knocked SSJ3 Goku back with that same finger. Or if you wanna use someone weaker than cell, lets say Zarbon. pretty sure Beerus could just breath and kill him.
No because this guy put a better fight than Goku when he was SSJ1/2.

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I wouldn't say he put up a better fight. He just rushed him all berserk. I'm sure ssj3 goku can take him.
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Notaka
Aug 18 2015, 04:24 PM
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Aug 18 2015, 04:01 PM
aren't you guys overthinking it? This is like saying Mr satan is stronger than let's say Cell because he survived finger to the head from beerus who knocked SSJ3 Goku back with that same finger. Or if you wanna use someone weaker than cell, lets say Zarbon. pretty sure Beerus could just breath and kill him.
No because this guy put a better fight than Goku when he was SSJ1/2.

Dude was stopped by Birusu's index finger, Goku was stopped with an entire hand (same as Mr. Buu).

Birusu straight up calls him boring. Whereas he's more impressed with Goku.
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I honestly do not see how that Red freak put up a better fight than any form of Goku.
if you wanna put it like this, then remember how Yamcha landed a Super powerful smack to Beerus's head, so hard that he even sent his head forward a bit! even SSJ3 Goku couldn't do that! lmao i just don't understand, i'd go as low as putting this red thing at the same level of that purple dinosaur from Dragon Ball, Giran. i'm not trying to troll around, i just seriously can't understand what this demon looking freak did that would make you think he did better than a SSJ.
Edited by Instant Transmission, Aug 18 2015, 06:39 PM.
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Aug 18 2015, 04:24 PM
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Aug 18 2015, 04:01 PM
aren't you guys overthinking it? This is like saying Mr satan is stronger than let's say Cell because he survived finger to the head from beerus who knocked SSJ3 Goku back with that same finger. Or if you wanna use someone weaker than cell, lets say Zarbon. pretty sure Beerus could just breath and kill him.
No because this guy put a better fight than Goku when he was SSJ1/2.

Dude was stopped by Birusu's index finger, Goku was stopped with an entire hand (same as Mr. Buu).

Birusu straight up calls him boring. Whereas he's more impressed with Goku.
And Beerus was hoping around when fighting Goku when he was SSJ1/2.
He also called Goku boring.

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I honestly do not see how that Red freak put up a better fight than any form of Goku.
if you wanna put it like this, then remember how Yamcha landed a Super powerful smack to Beerus's head, so hard that he even sent his head forward a bit! even SSJ3 Goku couldn't do that! lmao i just don't understand, i'd go as low as putting this red thing at the same level of that purple dinosaur from Dragon Ball, Giran. i'm not trying to troll around, i just seriously can't understand what this demon looking freak did that would make you think he did better than a SSJ.


First, it was a comic scene.
Second, Beerus was lowering his guard.
Third, Are you saying that giran could survive a hit from Beerus?
He did better than goku(ssj1/2) when fighting Beerus.
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He could have been anywhere from early thousands to billions. Hard to tell, Beerus was completely toying with him.
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Anything but far from an actual fight synopsis to declare how strong he is against the g-o-d
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His only real feat was to defeat a dinosaur with his hammer. Kid Goku was able to do so with his punch. Sure, he was stronger when he enter in battle mode, but imo, he can't possibly defeat even Kame Sennin.
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Aug 18 2015, 09:51 PM
His only real feat was to defeat a dinosaur with his hammer. Kid Goku was able to do so with his punch. Sure, he was stronger when he enter in battle mode, but imo, he can't possibly defeat even Kame Sennin.
Are you really sure he couldn't defeat Roshi ?

This is the same series where Goten and Trunks struggled against a snake.
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I'm gonna say he's probably above Buu tier, or at least at it.
It looks to me like it took about the same to take him and fat buu out but Beerus bothered to block.
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